My rant about Superhero/Comic book movies
This year marks the 35th anniversary of Superhero/Comic book films. I'm surprised that these films don't have their own genre or sub-genre, because most of these films can fit into one genre and that's action/adventure. Despite being around this long they feel like they're in its infancy due to Hollywood not making a lot of these films. Fans of this material are notorious for being critical of these movies. These films restart or start actors and actresses careers and give them roles that they're well known for like Mr. Stallone is known for his roles as Rocky and Rambo. The movies also made comic book characters more popular, especially the ones people don't know that well, OK that only happened with Iron Man as far as I know.
Hollywood didn't take these movies seriously at first, I mean check out the interviews from the earlier Batman films if you have them on DVD or find them on the Internet. Thanks to Mr. Nolan's Batman films and the MCU that's no longer the case. Mr. Nolan's Batman films have become a bad and good thing for the future of comic book movies. The good thing is that his films changed people's perspective about Superhero/Comic book movies, they can expect more from these kinds of films than just the hero and villain fighting, he added depth to his Batman films. Besides Iron Man, other films have done before Mr. Nolan like the X-Men films, Superman 2, Spider-Man 2, Batman Forever, Ang Lee's Hulk, Unbreakable and The Incredibles. The thing I appreciate about Mr. Nolan's Batman movies is that they don't feel like they're made for Batman fans. that's the problem I have with these movies, in general, they feel like they're made for the demographic that reads comic books.
The bad thing about Mr. Nolan's Batman films is that for some crazy reason, people expect comic book movies to be more dark and serious why!?! The Avengers proves that lighthearted films can sell so there's no need to do that. Hollywood stop giving Mr. Nolan more credit than he deserves, he's not the only director who has done this and he won't be the last. The thing that bothers me about Mr. Nolan's Batman films is that they're marketed to kids, his Batman films are not for kids. Hollywood didn't do this with Daredevil or Watchman because those are not movies for kids.
Another issue I have with these movies is that they change a character's race or nationality, if a character has a certain look for decades don't mess with it. I have a gripe with these films targeting kids, I'm not saying Superhero/Comic book films shouldn't be for kids it's just that it handicaps these films from telling mature stories. Hollywood did you learn anything from the early Batman films?
Before I get into what I want to see in these films going forward I want to address the issue of the heroes killing. I have mixed feelings about the heroes having a no-kill rule. On one hand, I understand why they have that rule to separate themselves from the villains and show that they value life. On the other hand, it's not reasonable to restore that fiction or not. Life is not Black and White so why should stories be like that? I'm not saying that I want comic books or movies to be more realistic however having things being Black and White makes the conflict for the heroes too easy. I think it's ridiculous that writers would come up with ways for superheroes to avoid killing because they're putting their moral integrity above saving people. How is that heroic? A hero makes sacrifices for others why should your soul be excluded from that? The question is should the no-kill rule be bent or broken to preserve the integrity of heroism? How you go about killing someone should determine if you're a good guy or not.
Another issue I have with these movies is that they change a character's race or nationality, if a character has a certain look for decades don't mess with it. I have a gripe with these films targeting kids, I'm not saying Superhero/Comic book films shouldn't be for kids it's just that it handicaps these films from telling mature stories. Hollywood did you learn anything from the early Batman films?
Before I get into what I want to see in these films going forward I want to address the issue of the heroes killing. I have mixed feelings about the heroes having a no-kill rule. On one hand, I understand why they have that rule to separate themselves from the villains and show that they value life. On the other hand, it's not reasonable to restore that fiction or not. Life is not Black and White so why should stories be like that? I'm not saying that I want comic books or movies to be more realistic however having things being Black and White makes the conflict for the heroes too easy. I think it's ridiculous that writers would come up with ways for superheroes to avoid killing because they're putting their moral integrity above saving people. How is that heroic? A hero makes sacrifices for others why should your soul be excluded from that? The question is should the no-kill rule be bent or broken to preserve the integrity of heroism? How you go about killing someone should determine if you're a good guy or not.
If you kill someone to protect and defend others that should be acceptable. Police and Soldiers do that and we consider them heroes why can't we do the same for comic book characters? What about Captain America I mean he killed people in WW2 does that make him a bad guy? Now it's not OK to kill someone out of anger, revenge, envy, or to get out of trouble. If superheroes have to kill it should be a last resort and there should be consequences for resorting to doing that. That's what Superman did in Man of Steel but people throw a fit over it. A comic called Superman What Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? is a better example.
I understand why people have a problem with it because he shouldn't be put in a position where he has to kill someone but what else could he have done? I mean he can't imprison him or send him to another plant. Plus, Superman wasn't happy that he had to kill him even if he was so what, Zod kill GOD knows how many people going to miss him? Now If Superman killed an average joe, I would understand people's outrage because that's an abuse of power. You shouldn't have an issue with the Green Lantern killing people because the Green Lantern Corps are space cops. Now if you objected to this idea let me ask you this why are you OK with them operating outside the law? Most of these comic book characters are vigilantes when you really think about it, don't believe me then which branch of Government do they answer to? The only time I saw that was in the Justice League cartoon.
Here are the four things I want to see happen more with these films.
The first thing is I want to see a good trilogy. None of the third movies are good, I can forgive Superman 3 and Spider-Man 3 for being bad because of the production history.
Second, I want the creators to embrace the source material more. Now I'm not one of those people who's mad that these films are not like the comics when really none of these films are completely like the comics, well Watchman came close. I don't mind changes from the source material if it's justified and is an improvement over the original work. Men in Black and The Mask are good examples, the worst example is Iron Man 3. It's safe to say that Hollywood is making a lot of profit off Superhero/Comic book films, if they want these films to last then they need to start doing that. The Avengers movie reminds me of the first issue of the Avengers comic.
I can understand how adapting a story from the comics can be hard, because of copyrights and sometimes the story is either too long or too short to turn into a movie. I was rolling on the floor laughing when I learned that Hollywood made a movie out of How the Grinch Stole Christmas are you kidding me? How they were able to make an hour-and-a-half movie on a short kid's book is beyond me. I would like to see a trilogy where all three films adapted a story from the comic like the No Man's Land story because the dark knight rises shoehorn that story.
The third thing is I want these films to be more of a period piece, I would like to see a Spider-Man film take place in the 1960s, or a Flash movie take place in the 1950's so far we had that with Captain America the first avenger, X-Men First Class and Batman 1989. By doing that you're giving us something different.
Now the final thing I want to see happen more with these films is I want the villains to be memorable, I'm not saying that the villains in these films are bad they just don't stand out like the Joker or Loki. This makes me mad because they wasted some good villains like Venom, Bane, and Malekith. I also want to see the villains have more victories over the heroes, it's not exciting to watch these films if you know the hero is going to win where's the fun in that?
Despite all of that the future looks promising for Marvel I can't say the same about DC. That's all I have to say what do you want to see happen more with these films?
P.S. I also want to see these films be nominated or win Oscars not just for visual effects, despite the directing problems in The Dark Knight I still think it was robbed of best picture.
The first thing is I want to see a good trilogy. None of the third movies are good, I can forgive Superman 3 and Spider-Man 3 for being bad because of the production history.
Second, I want the creators to embrace the source material more. Now I'm not one of those people who's mad that these films are not like the comics when really none of these films are completely like the comics, well Watchman came close. I don't mind changes from the source material if it's justified and is an improvement over the original work. Men in Black and The Mask are good examples, the worst example is Iron Man 3. It's safe to say that Hollywood is making a lot of profit off Superhero/Comic book films, if they want these films to last then they need to start doing that. The Avengers movie reminds me of the first issue of the Avengers comic.
I can understand how adapting a story from the comics can be hard, because of copyrights and sometimes the story is either too long or too short to turn into a movie. I was rolling on the floor laughing when I learned that Hollywood made a movie out of How the Grinch Stole Christmas are you kidding me? How they were able to make an hour-and-a-half movie on a short kid's book is beyond me. I would like to see a trilogy where all three films adapted a story from the comic like the No Man's Land story because the dark knight rises shoehorn that story.
The third thing is I want these films to be more of a period piece, I would like to see a Spider-Man film take place in the 1960s, or a Flash movie take place in the 1950's so far we had that with Captain America the first avenger, X-Men First Class and Batman 1989. By doing that you're giving us something different.
Now the final thing I want to see happen more with these films is I want the villains to be memorable, I'm not saying that the villains in these films are bad they just don't stand out like the Joker or Loki. This makes me mad because they wasted some good villains like Venom, Bane, and Malekith. I also want to see the villains have more victories over the heroes, it's not exciting to watch these films if you know the hero is going to win where's the fun in that?
Despite all of that the future looks promising for Marvel I can't say the same about DC. That's all I have to say what do you want to see happen more with these films?
P.S. I also want to see these films be nominated or win Oscars not just for visual effects, despite the directing problems in The Dark Knight I still think it was robbed of best picture.






